Spoil Opus 6
Cezar

Cezar

Posté le 28 mai 2018 à 16:28:09

Et on en arrive donc au "win more" dont je parlais. Peut-être oui qu'il est facile de poser plein d'avant en eau, mais j'aurais tendance à dire que si ton board est déjà rempli, bha tu gagnes déjà en fait (avec toutes les synergies déjà puissantes de l'élément, encore plus visibles sur un board rempli). Pas besoin d'Aymeric pour prendre quelconque avantage, juste pour l'appuyer et vu son prix et ce que ça fait dans le plus mauvais des cas, je dis un bon gros non.

Utile, mouai. Décisif non. Encore plus quand tu le compares à seulement Cloud of darkness opus 5, prenant actuellement, d'après moi, sa place dans les decks eau sans hésiter !

EDIT : Merci Forda pour les autres exemples ci-dessous.

Forda

Forda

Arbitre - Moderateur - Posté le 28 mai 2018 à 16:29:06

En Eau on aura tendance à vouloir jouer Léna, Gau, Steiner, CoD, voire même Cécil... mais pas ça...


Ceci était une intervention inutile donc indispensable de Forda.
Hillslion

Hillslion

Posté le 28 mai 2018 à 17:51:03

Disons que ça se jouait à une époque avec des decks très offensifs contenant Tidus L, Wakka S, ... mais actuellement les decks offensifs de ce genre ont disparu.
Ça pourrait peut-être revenir si d'autres arrivent également.


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ruepord

ruepord

Posté le 28 mai 2018 à 18:34:12

C'est vrai que le nouveau CoD est pas offensif xD

Une maivaise carte est une mauvaise carte point. Dans la catégorie avant eau à 5 me cut est très élevé. Alors qu'à 4...

sgdb

sgdb

Posté le 28 mai 2018 à 18:50:57

C'est vrai que ca commencerait a faire beaucoup de 5 dans le deck et celui ci est clairement moins bon que du nuage de tenebre, lena, cecil,...

Forda a dit :

En Eau on aura tendance à vouloir jouer Léna, Gau, Steiner, CoD, voire même Cécil... mais pas ça...

Hillslion

Hillslion

Posté le 28 mai 2018 à 18:51:31

Non, je voulais dire qu'un vrai deck eau basé uniquement sur de l'offensif, on en a pas réellement vu depuis un moment.
Y a pas mal de cartes offensives, mais est-ce que des gens ont vraiment envie de jouer un deck eau offensif ?


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alex4815162342

alex4815162342

Posté le 30 mai 2018 à 10:54:19

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Mog Brothers 3 Earth Backup Job(Moogle) FFCC When Mog Brothers enters the Field, reveal the top 5 cards of your deck. You may choose 1 Job(Moogle) among them, add it to your hand, and put the rest on the bottom of your deck in any order. (Dull), Put Mog Brothers in the Break Zone: Play one Cost 2 or less Job(Moogle) from your hand to the field. Kain 3 9000 Lightning Forward Job(Dragoon) IV When a Dark Forward is played to your opponent’s Field, your opponent gains control of Kain. When a Dark Forward you control is put from the Field to the Break Zone your opponent gains control of Kain. Shuyin 5 7000 Water Forward Job(Illusion) X When Shuyin enters the Field, choose 1 Forward with power less than Shuyin’s. Gain control of it until the end of the turn.

Bahamut Kai 2 Fire Summon Mobius You can only summon Bahamut Kai during your Main Phase. Choose 1 Forward. Deal it 8000 damage. Discard your entire hand. Kazusa 5 Backup Ice Job(Researcher) Type-0 When Kazusa enters the Field, choose 1 dull Forward. Deal it 10000 damage. (Ice)(1)(Dull), Put Kazusa in the Break Zone: Choose up to 2 Forwards. Dull them.


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Nedounet

Nedounet

Arbitre - Posté le 1 juin 2018 à 10:54:12

Nouvelle Y'Shtola ! Elle est en card of the week, mais j'ai une analyse un poil plus longue : 

Time for a small analysis for this new Y'Shtola!

Y'Shtola is one of my favorite character in the whole franchise. We finally got the Heavensward outfit too!

She's a 4CP 8k power with 3 effects.

First, it's a Vincent-L effect, meaning she can't break from non-damaging source. Exact opposite of the opus 5 legendary one

Second one is getting Brave when a condition is met, which is 3 Scion other than her. 

Last one is she can deal 8K to a forward when she attacks if you control 5+ other scions.

Obviously she can't be played without scions, there are superior options for a 4CP forward.

She's on curve at 8K, meaning you don't lose much value by just putting her on the field. 

Being able to handle standard break effect means you can get around Mateus, Odin, Edea, Zalera..., lots of special abilities (Vincent L, Edea, etc). It also prevent executes (Opus 4 Orlando for instance) It does not help against Lightning or Fire, elements that deal direct damage. Does not prevent Power reduction (Water or wind). All in all, this is a bonus effect that does not warrant a spot in a deck, but it's always nice to have this.

I won't discuss the second effect. You will want to get to 5+ scions, so Y'Shtola will probably always be Brave if you play her accordingly. I personnally don't always like this effect because it opens up Al-Cid combos, but that's personal.

8K damage is a lot. You can destroy tons of forward with this kind of blast. For instance, you can break the main forwards on some really played decks. Locke, Setzer, Genesis Rinoa, and The Emperor, even after a Larg buff. You can get to Celes/Vayne without buffs, for Ice. Every piece of Al-Cid combos dies from it. If you get Illua's protection, she's dead too. You get every Elemental Warrior of light (Arc, Luneth, Ingus, Refia), and unboosted Wol, Cloud of Darkness, Zemus, Amon... Almost everything can die off a 8K blast.


The drawback there is the condition to play it. You need 5 other scions to get there. Is it possible ?

If you want to play scion, you'll go Lightning/Earth. This means 3 backups (Minfillia, Alphinaud, Alisaie) and 4 forwards (Thancred, Yda, Papalymo, Urianger).

To get the backups, Louisoix can help to get the twins. As a 3CP backup, it helps to expand quickly your backline. A Turn 1 Alphinaud + Monk, followed by Turn 2 Louisoix- Alisaie sets you for a great start (such as a Hasted Thancred/Y'Shtola, or even going on with Yda+Papalymo). Getting to 2/3 Scion backup is pretty doable. Maybe more will come to in this opus (Tataru when?)

What's good about the twins is that they helps to get value from Y'Sthola. Alisaie gives her Haste, which is straight up strong to get value ASAP from her. And if you can proc the 8K blast, that's even more value. Playing a Haste/Brave forward and deal 8K in the same turn, for 4CP ? This is a huge tempo swing if this happens.

Alphinaud's effect is sometimes lackluster. Sure. But if 2K Damage is small, added to Y'Shtola 8K, you can destroy pretty much every forward your opponent will play


All of it comes down to the fact to be able to get 2-3 forward on the field at the same time. Papalymo is squishy. Yda should be strong given the deck. Urianger is barely a CIP effect, and has no body. Thancred can be sticky.

If the meta sees lots of soft or hard removal, you might not see her effect easily. What might save her is the low cost of the Scions forward and her somewhat protection from removal, meaning, with haste, you should be able to setup a situation where you get the damage.

FFXIV Scions deck are aggressive and based on Yda's strength. This will not change. But Y'Shtola is a trong addition to this, giving a little bit of removal and stickyness to the archetype. But won't be played outside of it, sadly.


Ruptur

Ruptur

Posté le 2 juin 2018 à 21:11:26

Nouvel avant "Albatros" :)

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SaoSquall

SaoSquall

Posté le 2 juin 2018 à 21:32:41

Donc si y a une Paine y devrait y avoir une nouvelle Rikku ^^ J'ai hate